So I'm recording, that's okay. No problem. Thank you. Yes, so for introducing a bit of PsyTopia, this is a project that we have started at least in our mind with Andreas and two other friends from the city. To say wow we are meeting so much people every day with a lot of skills, of subjects they love and that they share with us and with anybody. And okay we meet a lot of these people and wow it would be really nice to make this maybe not lucrative but lucrative at the scale of what the city is proposing. It means the many knowledge we can share in the city. This is a place especially where we can share very a lot. So finally we converge time by time to the conferences and in a field that we know a bit about AI. And more or less everything that is around this field. And yes, as we are in this place, the city universitaire, where the philosophy is more like inclusivity, knowledge sharing, equity,Okay, how to talk about AI in the way that maybe it could be advantageous. Actually, this is the case in some fields. We can find some limits, of course. We can find some also bad things we can do with. And yes, it could be the occasion with this kind of conferences to show a bit there's many advantages and limits. So the idea is to make three conferences. The first one is about the fundamental AI. It was a few weeks ago. And there is a replay for that. Just for the few big lines, it was about why we don't have to trust, why to avoid to trust deeply the LLM, what could be an emancipation of the user from his numerical digital environment about AI safety and it was especially your topic and the last topic about the field of the re-identification of the data because even if you are trying to anonymize the data there is always a way to re-identify the data after a while. Okay, so this was the first conference. The second one that will take part inmore than one week will be about, okay, we have talked about the fundamental AI, now what is the projection on other fields? And the fields for the next conference will be about society, so about environment, about health, about social life. Especially for now the topics we have in mind is psychology, education of course, also medicine with a PhD student that will present double way that is using AI in medicine because for the medicine and the AI in itself because he's using a lot the AI as a multi-agent environment where there's many agents are helping him to make his job always with the critical point of view of course is very Prudent, and don't remember my prudent in English also. He's really prudent, careful, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's really careful about that, because he is also from the AI topic. And yes, that's more or less the things we have in mind for the next conferences. And for the very last one, so at the end of the month, of June. It will be aboutthe projection in the creative field, the philosophy, the literature, the cinema, the art. I have missed something in the explanation. More, right? Yeah, thank you. Of course, if you have some specific questions about this explanation, you are very welcome. Yeah, I have some questions. Yeah, of course. You have some questions. By organizing this conference, I am trying to understand what you want to touch on some topics. Yeah. Some fields using which one we use AI to enhance AI work in this space. But what is the main thing, main idea to organize this conference? The behind or the world? Because when we talk about, okay, in my head I had many things, okay, when you explain. When you... If we will present something. Sure. I don't know. If we will present something, then of course we will find a topic or you have already any topic to...We need to know, we'll need to know who are these public. What is your main idea to organize this conference? I'm trying to understand that. Okay. If I'm not mistaken, you have a startup. You have a startup, no? More or less, that was the main idea at some moment. I heard your idea. You remember that? Yeah. For now this is much more... Well, they're a really, really good idea, but I don't know... The goal now and the public now is much more academic. Because this is at the scale of the city and there is no lucrative deep mind behind this conference. Yeah, for any, even for academic audience, we will need to precise exactly the topic because as someone can form, even during four months I realized how they work. In this because we need to process to justify with our sources by explaining how we were children. It takes time, first of all. But really I want to understand, you wanted to presentOkay, how we can use AI? This is the main thing? Because you are trying to touch. So I think the audience is very general. So we have people from many different disciplines. Some are in science, some are not in science, like in humanities. Like there's a big range of audiences. So it's like... You can basically assume that people don't know anything about AI. Yeah, okay. It's that they are really AI professionals, education professionals, or students who are trying to... So it's a very general audience, very general audience. Okay, it's... And then... So the simpler the better, I guess. You know why? Because it's... Exactly the same thing we are doing in our field in digital education. If we don't know our audience, we can't create a content. If you take a topic, you need to understand, okay, What is knowledge of your audience? What level is your knowledge of your audience? Because if you start to, if you want to talk about a start level, beginner level,And there are many, many, many people here know already students in AI and others teachers in AI. And this will be very simple for them. It won't be interesting. So, one thing is it's very... Yeah, sorry. Even if you have... I'm trying to get a place on it. Even if you have a list about some information about that, we can create a... On peut préparer une liste avec des informations. On peut préparer une liste avec des informations. C'est la data qu'on parle de, mais c'est la data qu'on utilise pour créer un contenu, même pour une présentation. C'est ça qu'elle veut dire. C'est pas contre-idée, mais c'est juste pour comprendre. Et si vous, vous savez où on va présenter quelque chose, c'est qui notre podium? Non, non, vraiment, c'est une des questions les plus primordiales à poser. Je peux continuer de parler en anglais? Non, non, c'est ok, ça m'arrive. Non, non, non, n'hésitez surtout pas à switcher. Non, non, c'est une question très, très belle. Et oui, vous avez raison, nous devons remplacer un peu ce qu'est Saitopia.is just a format of conferences at the scale of the city, so we understand that this is for everybody, as Andreas said, and we have to vulgarize the many topics we are proposing to be acceptable and understandable to any of us. Of course, sometimes it's a bit complicated to vulgarize everything, but we try our best. Don't worry, this is always at the scale of the city, so this is not a conference. This is not even a national conference, this is just an amateur conference. That we are doing at the scale of the city. So that's really okay to try to vulgarize our master study or maybe something before. This is at this scale. So this is the big format of Cytopia. There is a cycle on what we are especially focused. So this is a cycle about technology and this cycle about technology, this is globally imagining and describing more human and responsible use of contemporary technologies, so especially AI. So the AI, about the AI, about the fundamental first conference and the next one will be on the projection on society and the projection on the field of arts. But always in this vulgarization to be inclusive with the public, a very large public, and maybe someAnd there is people from outside the city possibly also. But yeah, mostly academics. Maybe we can do at least this assumption. Yeah. Of course, we are talking, sorry. This is your turn. No, no, no, I have a turn. Sorry. It's okay. This is you. Okay, well there was another point I wanted to mention, which is we have very short time for the talks. And so our idea was to kind of spark discussion with the talks. We noticed that in these conferences a lot of the time the presentations they can be really interesting but what is sometimes more interesting is to talk to people who are actually into the same things as you are and so we try for the next conference we try to make space for that to kind of have a maybe have a bit of a teaser for what you're talking about what is the really key question what are the key ideas in a very short amount of time that then we can have a discussion afterwards maybe over some wine, some food, something like this because there will be space for both. Yeah that's usually more interesting for people to do that this way because if they have questions usually they can ask them it's like just toldYes. Yeah, okay. It means you, for a presentation, will have a small piece of this. What do you think for the next ones? Because previously it was 15, but maybe 10 could be nice also. It's possible to talk about your planning, the session planning. What do you... Yeah, so our idea was 10 minutes, then it would take a bit longer. 10 minutes is okay. Normally, in France, 10 minutes is 10 minutes for everyone. It looks... During our lessons, one person, I think, was 10 minutes. Then it's a discussion, discussion, discuss process. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That could be nice. 10 minutes, yeah. So for me, for my talk, when I tried to fit everything in 10 minutes, it was very, very difficult. How do you say? You have a time optimistic? It means also we will need to animate this question and answer with our question and answer section. Everyone has their own question and answer process. I think as a presenter we will need to animate this process also. Let them check.about this presentation. It's like a little bit of a facilitator, like as a facilitator, as a person, as a facilitator. So currently we can still change things, it's not fixed. So the structure is not fixed for the next topics yet. But currently the idea was to have presentations in the first half or something and then have like informal exchange afterwards. So, and then I think to prepare a talk, how I would do it would be to ask myself, okay, this thing I want to present, what is the most interesting thing that everyone can relate to and that creates like some... Connection where then later if in the informal you know we have some drinks and food and snacks maybe so then they come to you and be like oh what like tell me more about this that's how i imagine it and again we have some room to discuss and to change things but that would be it and for me the most interesting talks are usually anyway the ones where me as an audience are like, oh, this is interesting, this is something that's relevant.Usually I think it's when there's a story and impact. And this is the perfect subject to make it, if it's about how we use AI really. I think it could be really interesting to have stories about, well, storytelling basically, and impact side of the project. That's cool. And is it online or on sites? Both. Okay, okay. We will be on site. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, and what time is it at? It will be the 10th of June and it will be at... It will start at... 7.45 In the morning? In the morning, yeah. Okay, so I can go to work. Okay, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not just in the morning, in the afternoon. 7. 7.45. PM. PM, 19.45. Oui, c'est ça, ouais. 19.45, ouais. Just wanted to make sure. Okay, okay, okay. It's okay, cool. And I didn't hear, but do you have like any environmental subjects or like climate related subjects? Sorry, I will do well. Do you have any climate-related subjects? That will be your subject. Yes, because I'm not about education or healthcare or anything. So you don't have any specific topics to present and we will decide together. Of course, for your field, you can decide by yourself.We are very open for any topics and maybe especially your specialty. Yeah, it would be really nice. We take like that, we need to process and process and you can take, okay, this is AI where I forgot about, but AI in society, AI in education, AI in society. But for you, for example, it would be especially about AI in education. Of course, I mean, I talk about AI in education, but AI isn't gay. Or digital education, I mean, with AI. So, the only thing... Yeah, as you took examples of, like, medicine or stuff like that, I was like... Okay. Do that, really? I don't think I can help much. No, these are the ones we already have speakers for. So if you have something else, that would be even better. Okay, yeah, I do have something else. So the only thing is we have the rough categories for each conference. The first one was the actual technology, the second one will be impacts on society, and the third one on thought or something. Yeah, thought, art, philosophy. I mean, if you have a topic where you say, oh, I would like to present that and it doesn't fit perfectly, we can find out. I would fit into the second category. Yeah, right. I think it fits very well. That's cool. Do you have some field? You said, for example, the environment? What? Do you have some field?Yeah, we didn't do the introduction. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would be really nice now, yeah. To predict sea level rise and cultural retreat. So, yeah. I have a startup to predict the rise of the sea level and the recession of the littoral. Wow! So yeah, this is why I don't fit into like healthcare or anything. The climate is obviously something that is very interesting also. Wow, and it could be also interesting the discussion with Ariane. Maybe she will be there, I do not remember. I'm not sure if she's back yet. She's studying this field, not AI, but this field. Okay, cool. But the format. Oh, nice. And from the point of view of the science politics. Okay, wow, I would love to talk to her. Maybe, yeah, I hope she will be there. It's not like what I work on, but it's such an interesting thing. Like, I have so many questions to ask her. But tell us more about your subject and your startup. Yeah, so I grew up near the ocean, near Bordeaux. And I'm just 24 years old, so I'm really young. And I saw the coast evolve so much that places I loved disappeared. And the people had to leave their houses and stuff like this. And it's just like a developed country with money where it's still a...And I wanted to do something about it. So I started studying earth sciences in La Rochelle. To study like oceans and climates. And then I came to Paris to study satellites. And yeah, I know. And I created the project and now we're eight people working on it, which is like super cool because no one is paid. So I'm like, why do people work? They work for the passion, basically. And so we want to help communities adapt to sea level rise and predict it. Because in many places it's not going to be easy and they don't have the money to predict with big firms or anything. So we want a solution for smaller communities. Okay, okay. This is what we're building. Bravo. Thank you. Very impressive subject, love. Yeah. Okay. It's kind of niche. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you have already eight people with you for your startup and you found... Found? Did I find funds to you? No, no, no, sorry, my English. Tu as trouvé des fonds aussi? Not funds. My co-founder is working on it. I hired a co-founder just to work on that and help me. It helps, it helps. And everything related to finance, law and everything that I'm so bad at. And now we're recruiting someone who's into...Like an urban planner. So yeah, this is really cool. So your collaborator is in this field? My collaborator is, she worked in finance and law. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But related to climate. And models and everything, so she loves it. And when she heard about the project the first time, she was like, I want to work on it. And the same thing happened with the person who is doing Urban Planet. And it's just women, which is funny because it's hard to find women who want to create startups, basically. And I found two. What a luck. Wow. Really, really nice. Wow. Okay. Thank you for your introduction and very passionate subject and start. Wow. And for you too, can you remind us a bit your study, your field and... Okay, okay. Just as a description, we can... Learning technologies and media, using AI media and learning technologies for education. So, hola, I have many things to... Especially I was working with other learners, professional learners.trying to find some synchronous or asynchronous version, how we can facilitate their learning as a professional, their learning process. So I had my master thesis on it, synchronous in a global company results. Like I had a small research on it. I started to observe and calculate. I had also qualitative, quantitative data on it. Being prepared, you know, yeah. Being prepared, we were working on AIDS and current training for professionals. How we can... I feel that the problem is here. This is a really very good question, I think. We use technologies to enhance learning process and also in some companies there are many restrictions. For example, in a bank company, they don't have any access to other companies, even Canva, Google, because of the data problems, you know, information problems. And we couldn't access to other tools. That's why we were staying on Microsoft, only Microsoft. And it was an impact. I wasn't thinking it was an impact.their learning, synchronous learning process, because they couldn't access YouTube. When we share some content on YouTube, and yeah, we learned that, where we observed, we, I mean we, it was only me, I observed this process, and I wrote my master thesis on this process, and so also, this is already the research work for I think it's a taxis. At the same time I was trying to work and to create, not trying, I created the content for this Britain training center for adult learners. Adult I mean, they are not adult but we call them adult after 70. After 16 after they're 16 yeah I created a digital learning content like learning content yeah courses like courses they can use for their learning process how we can use audio we can use mention any visual content to facilitate their learning process as a learner who has learning disabilities or any disabilities. This is like small, I have many many things but yeah. Because this is my field.You are continuing to do something for your thesis, by the next, a new thesis. Well, not because you were in Strasbourg, but it was not... Yeah, I left, I left. It's not all of my thesis. It was about AI supported learning and governance. It's not already my problem, it's not my topic because they have already another candidate after me and it will be, I don't know him, him topics. And yeah, it was cheating his, there was a... This platform is a national, for teachers, national learning digital platform. This company, the owner, they were trying to enhance this by integrating AI to this platform. They want to enhance the teachers'working and learning process. Content creation and it's like you don't need to search on chat GPT or another. We were creating data, sourcing AI to create their own AI platform on this platform, like integrating AI toIt was interesting, we were already started for this sourcing process and for the first time I was experimenting, I was part of this sourcing process, especially for governmental platforms. There are many conditions, terminals, we can find any sources to... To nourish this AI platform. Yeah, working on data, data I think is interesting, but I'm not a specialist. We were working with specialists, we had a company, a well-known AI company, and they were working on this data process. Our responsibility was sourcing, crisis sourcing. Okay, wow. And what would be, do you think, a subject that would be interesting, maybe in projection for... Interesting what? Whatever. Topic to discuss. To discuss. Okay, I had already some ideas. More about your master, more about the subject you started to...Yeah, we can talk about this conference, I think. For this conference we can talk about digital learning and using AI in inclusive learning. But this is a general topic, we need to specify in the process exactly what... But a special field. There's something I know well. I don't... My work... My research interest was always on motivation and engagement. Yeah, always motivation and engagement. How to gamify it. Yeah, I would like to know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a good question. Yeah, motivation and engagement in digital learning. Yeah, okay. Even for professionals, yeah. This is the base because the main thing is motivation. If you don't have any motivation, it's not... I will be your public. Because, well, this is the field I'm a specialist in, this last time. I was trying to build a startup for now, this is now in post because some belly-pissy since the last time we met. My ex-collaborator from the business part wasOh my god! A bit too much in the business and finally the wine was not at all elegant. And yeah, anyway, it was a good thing that has been happening during this very beginning, very starting moment. So now we are separated and very different ideas. For me, it was a kind of... I'm far from the business now and I'm playing more to... Not so far, but I'm playing to first think the project as an open project, an open source project. And maybe finding some way to give a link with the business, maybe a bit like... A bit like what I don't know, as a Mosulize functioning, another example maybe that is more known. For example, recently I saw a concurrent of Notion, and that is named Afin. And he's doing this kind of plan to... This is free to everybody. And if you want to augment the service, they can give the... Simplification to give access to server that you can do that by yourself also. So yeah, kind ofof freedom that I have to show. Anyway, about that, I will be, I think, a very focused public, especially on your field, and I think we can have very deep talk about that. Already? Maybe it will be the one month to move. And so yes, for you, if you are okay for a talk, I would be very happy to have your speech. I will love to have your speech. You already did that maybe many times. I pitched a few times. I wanted to give conferences to raise awareness and this would be a first. So I would really love to do it. It's been a dream for a few years already. Amazing. Cool. A pleasure to observe that. Thank you. I should prefer. Okay. At least I think if we are talking in French to put the text in English.I prefer English, it's just to know. Okay. So, let's go for the English. Okay. And of course, if you prefer French. No, it's better in English. Because I was studying English. I mean, my work of law to explain my knowledge is in English. Okay. Yeah, no, I was studying in France, but my now is in my base, that's why it's so easy, I think. I think it's better for our audience, so we don't know we will have any... Yes, probably. It's still a common language. Yeah, I want to try. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I know what it is. You know where I did it. Because I feel like stop would be rude to people. I would say maybe this is a point of view from the front because when we are saying the first thank you, it means...And it doesn't stop and I was like, merci, merci, merci, merci, merci. I've never heard anyone, French people do it actually. It's just like the c'est pas mal to say very good. Like it's not that bad. And I say this to say very good. Like it's okay, but it's not okay at all. Like we don't express feelings at all. I don't know why. Probably out of bad politeness. No, bad what? Bad politeness. What is this? I feel there are many theod. Theod inside. No, I know, but... I don't know if it's because it's not good to bless people, but it's not good to bless people. Oui, oui. C'est un peu une question.